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Tech, Repairs, Upgrades => Capri N/A 89-94 => Topic started by: chukT on December 16, 2018, 01:38:27 AM

Title: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on December 16, 2018, 01:38:27 AM
  It's been a few years since I was here. I used to have a 91 N/A. I put about 100,000 miles on it as a commuter car, and have been wanting to get another. Fast forward 10 years and we're dragging home another new-to-me 91. High miles, bit of rust, and it's been sitting for years. My plan is to get it running right, then tear it all apart, fix the rusty bits, freshen up the suspension and brakes, then use it for the occasional ride or autocross day. Wish me luck!

This car would start when I bought it. The fellow told me he put a gallon or so of gas in it, it ran, but had a bad miss. I started it up, saw the oil pressure gauge move, didn't hear any terrible noises and decided good enough. we made a deal and loaded it up for the trip home.

At home I replaced the shattered 80 amp main fuse, pulled the plugs and replaced with new. Did a compression test while I was there and got 145-155 on all 4 holes.. The old plugs were heavily carbon fouled, so I pulled the plugged up air filter out too. I checked the plug wires with a meter, examined the cap and rotor and all looked good.

Next step was the old gas. Popped the rear seat bottom and pulled the fuel pump. Yuck, what a mess! Got to love Ethanol! Next step now is dropping the tank for a good cleaning. 

Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: greywolf27030 on December 16, 2018, 08:20:15 AM
Welcome back, sounds like you're off to a good start.  Sounds a lot like my first one.  Wish you a lot of luck.  Where are you located?

Jack Byrd
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on December 16, 2018, 09:35:34 AM
 PA.
 Johnstown area.
 About an hour east of Pittsburgh.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: Trackerrrr on December 16, 2018, 02:46:03 PM
Good luck. I HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY recommend you replace the fuel filter and rubber lines. Blow out all the old gas from lines too. I just went thru this myself with my beater that had sat for seven years. That old gas will contaminate everything it touches. Check out my build thread for the issues I had, you may want to think about new pump strainer too.

http://teamcapri.com/forum/index.php/topic,4041.0.html (http://teamcapri.com/forum/index.php/topic,4041.0.html)
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: Trackerrrr on December 16, 2018, 02:50:05 PM
Also good board on Facebook here:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/210318449008872/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/210318449008872/)
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: Trackerrrr on December 16, 2018, 02:57:36 PM
Things to check from sitting:

Timing belt, idler roller, tensioner roller
Coolant, probably will need changed out
All coolant hoses including the little ones to the throttle body and IAC
IAC coolant passages might be plugged from sitting, be prepared to clean it out
Belts
All vacuum lines
All fuel lines
Brake fluid will need flushed for sure
Tires are probably old and weather checked, if over five years old I would not drive on them
Brake hoses
Window regulators probably need cleaned and greased
Fuel tank cleaning (I used a pressure washer and lots of Simple Green...)
Grease convertible top hinge points, be gentle with latches, they break easy with too much force
Change oil and filter
Check air filter
CV joint boots for cracking/splitting

That's all I can think of for now. Cars that sit for years can be very cranky when you try and wake them up.


Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on December 16, 2018, 07:40:41 PM
Unfortunately I've been "down this road" plenty of times in the past. Cars, trucks, motorcycles, farm tractors. Seems I never buy anything that's running  ;D.
I'll go through all systems before I'm done. I read through your post Trackerrrr, looks like you're getting there! You don't have a part # for a fuel pump strainer, do you?
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: Trackerrrr on December 16, 2018, 10:45:54 PM
Unfortunately I've been "down this road" plenty of times in the past. Cars, trucks, motorcycles, farm tractors. Seems I never buy anything that's running  ;D.
I'll go through all systems before I'm done. I read through your post Trackerrrr, looks like you're getting there! You don't have a part # for a fuel pump strainer, do you?

They are available from almost any parts store and online from places like RockAuto.com. I got mine from RockAuto, part F233S, AutoBest brand.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: greywolf27030 on December 17, 2018, 03:14:22 PM
Unfortunately I've been "down this road" plenty of times in the past. Cars, trucks, motorcycles, farm tractors. Seems I never buy anything that's running  ;D.
I'll go through all systems before I'm done. I read through your post Trackerrrr, looks like you're getting there! You don't have a part # for a fuel pump strainer, do you?

They are available from almost any parts store and online from places like RockAuto.com. I got mine from RockAuto, part F233S, AutoBest brand.

The one I got from Advance Auto didn't work.

Jack Byrd.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: NiteLord on December 17, 2018, 07:36:06 PM
ChukT your from my Old stomping grounds, from Somerset originally but hung out in Richlands, Windber and Johnstown..but I just replaced my Fuel Pump the other day..was getting a code #25-Fuel Pressure Regulator but it was a weak fuel pump...I used Fuel pump strainer CARQUEST FS132 from Advance Auto Parts..fit was perfect..
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on December 17, 2018, 09:40:18 PM
Nitelord, Don't know when you "grew up" but if it was late 80s-mid 90s we may have drank some beer together!

Haven't had any work time in a few days. Hope to get the tank dropped this week.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on December 19, 2018, 09:39:22 PM
Got some work done tonight. Car jacked up and tank pulled. The good news, nothing broke coming apart. The tank may need replaced though. I've never seen such a buildup of rusty sludge. It must have had at least a half tank of fuel that reduced itself into gel. I'll finish cleaning this one out then decide if I'll keep it.  No help yet from Austin, besides the tow home!
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on December 29, 2018, 03:58:41 PM
Well my tank had 2 weepy spots on the top. Got a replacement on the way. Also ordered new pump strainer, fuel filter, and brake line to replace the rear lines.
I scraped the loose underbody paint and repainted where the tank sits, so now I'm just waiting for parts.

Has anyone replaced the rubber fill and vent hoses? Looks like 1 3/4" and 5/8" would fit, just need to source some.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: Trackerrrr on December 30, 2018, 02:22:00 AM
The fuel filler hose is 1-7/8". I just replaced mine, got the hose from www.fillernecksupply.com (http://www.fillernecksupply.com). I needed 10 inches to fit. They also carry the vent hose.

https://www.fillernecksupply.com/1-7-8-or-48mm-diameter-gas-tank-hose/ (https://www.fillernecksupply.com/1-7-8-or-48mm-diameter-gas-tank-hose/)

Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on December 30, 2018, 07:57:29 PM
Thanks for the link. I checked it out, looks like 20 bucks will buy the fill and vent hose. I don't have a problem with that, but holy man! They want 14-something for shipping!!! I'm going to check out some local suppliers and see what I turn up in town. I really dislike being shafted like that for shipping.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: Trackerrrr on January 01, 2019, 05:10:31 PM
Thanks for the link. I checked it out, looks like 20 bucks will buy the fill and vent hose. I don't have a problem with that, but holy man! They want 14-something for shipping!!! I'm going to check out some local suppliers and see what I turn up in town. I really dislike being shafted like that for shipping.

Me either but that hose fit perfectly.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on January 07, 2019, 07:51:32 PM
New tank came in. There are a few small details where it differs from the O.E. tank. The vent tube terminates in a different spot inside the tank, there's no bracket for the rollover valve thingy, and the drain plug is deleted. All in all it looks good, but I gave it a coat of grey paint over the new paint anyways. There were some spots rubbed through to bare metal from shaking around in the shipping box. Got the old pump all cleaned up, new filter sock installed, and the pump in the tank with a new gasket. Also tested the fuel gauge to be sure it worked.

I'm working on replacing the brake lines now. They had been repaired in the past by running new lines under the tank. Since it's apart I can put them back over the tank, where they were originally.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on January 28, 2019, 09:33:09 PM
Still plugging away as time allows. Mostly done with the rear brake lines now, shiny new ni-cp line from the master to the rear calipers, all back in the factory clips and routing. Got the new rubber hoses on the rear too. Takes some time doing it an hour here and there.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on February 10, 2019, 08:28:27 PM
All new brake lines and hoses done now. Moving on to repair the 2 rusty floor spots.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: greywolf27030 on February 11, 2019, 10:50:17 AM
Seems like it never ends.

Jack Byrd
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: Rocketman on February 12, 2019, 12:08:42 PM
How bad was it to do all the brake lines? I will be needing to do that at some point.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on February 12, 2019, 06:31:08 PM
Worst part was finding time when it isn't raining! You'll need both inverted and bubble flare tools, the master cyl uses bubble, the rest is double flare. I had the fuel tank down already, so it would have been silly not to do the rears at the same time. Left front line came out in one piece, and back in the same way. The right front line I had to cut in half to remove, then bend the replacement into position after fishing it through from the wheel well. It is back in all the factory clips now though. 3 of the bolts that secure the line hangers snapped off on removal. I drilled them out and used self-tapping bolts to hold the hangers back in position. I ended up with one union along the underbody, that was due to the way I was working on the car. If I'd had 2 rolls of tubing to begin with that wouldn't have been necessary. This NiCp line is a revelation to work with! I bought 2 25ft rolls and have 10 or so feet left over after doing the entire car.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on February 16, 2019, 06:52:28 PM
I stripped out my seats and carpet. I've got 2 floor holes to patch. One on each side where the floor angles up to the firewall, out towards the rocker panels. I got the right side almost finished today.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on February 26, 2019, 07:09:28 PM
Quick update. Passenger side floor is done! I've moved on to the left side now. The hole here isn't as extensive, I finished up cutting out the bad spots today. Next go-round I'll start patching.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on March 10, 2019, 09:46:23 AM
I'm all finished with my floor patching. Got both sides welded up, sealed and painted. Now I need to remove the heater box to clean it of mouse residue!

I had to remove and clean the injectors to get the car to run on all 4 cylinders. That's sorted now, so I'm going to replace the valve cover gasket, then put some new plug wires on.

Still lots to do.
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: greywolf27030 on March 11, 2019, 10:13:49 AM
Keep going, you'll be ready for summer.

Jack Byrd
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on March 31, 2019, 12:10:30 AM
Still plugging away. Getting ready to tackle the rusty core support now. Here's my build thread on another forum, if anyone is interested.
https://advrider.com/f/threads/drug-home-a-race-car.1357362/
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: greywolf27030 on March 31, 2019, 10:37:40 AM
I signed up with Adventure Rider so I can keep up with your progress, you're inspiring me.

Jack Byrd
Title: Re: Back on the road
Post by: chukT on March 31, 2019, 12:13:34 PM
Ha-Ha, that's a pretty good forum. The amount of information available from the collective is staggering. It seems you can ask about ANYTHING and get good advice!

Glad you enjoy it.