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Author Topic: What have I broken?  (Read 813 times)

JimmyGermany

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What have I broken?
« on: January 04, 2021, 06:02:46 PM »

Gentlemen,

Went to get the car out of the garage for an appointment in the workshop.

Went to install battery, which was on a trickle charger in the house.
Seems I got poles wrong, headlights did a little dance.
Tried to start. No worky-worky.
Turned battery around. Headlights retracted.
Tried to start. Nothing. Not even the attempt to turn over.
Lights still work, but thatís about all.

What have I fried and is there hope?

Cheers
James.
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redsteve

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2021, 10:07:37 PM »

Hi James,

Indeed, there's always hope!

If you are lucky you simply blew a bunch of fuses and relays, easy and cheap enough relative to the next level of possibilities. We hope they did the job, so as to stave off worse.

Next set of possibles...the ECU, alternator, etcetera...

Third set of possibles...all of the above in some combination of traumas.

If there was no smoke or burned odors maybe you got lucky and it's just fuses and relays. Electricity, like water, flows the path of least resistance so it's hard to know what's burned without a lot of sorting. Based on my experience in isolating a short, it took hours of patience.

I'd start with fuses and relays and a circuit tester.

We sure wish you good luck!

Let us know; as Red Green said in his Canadian TV show: "We're pulling for you, we're all in this together."

Steve





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Rocketman

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2021, 02:11:44 AM »

Usually the 80amp MAIN fuse pops, it's bolted into the under-hood fuse block.
Try replacing that, it seems that many folks have done this and no further damage is done other than the blown fuse.
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JimmyGermany

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2021, 10:28:48 AM »

Gentlemen!

I have been lucky indeed!

The 80A main fuse was blown, and the radio didnít survive the experience.
ECU and Alternator are still OK.

IT LIVES!!!
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Rocketman

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2021, 10:26:50 PM »

If it is an aftermarket radio, it may have it's own fuse installed in the back side of the radio.

Good to hear nothing major has suffered
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redsteve

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2021, 10:45:26 PM »

James!

Yaaaaay!

As Rocketman says...there's nothing like a fuse (to block)!!

Cheers all,

Steve
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JimmyGermany

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2021, 10:09:39 AM »

Gentlemen!

Does anybody know offhand which fuse the electric mirrors are wired to?
They didnít seem to work on the short drive to the workshop. .
Wipers - yes
Windshield spray - yes
Headlights and blinkers - yes.

This story has unfolded almost exclusively at night, so Iíll take a better look when I get the car back.

Cheers
James
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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2021, 11:03:48 AM »

Hi Jame,

My factory manual shows location 8 in the interior fuse panel, a 15 amp fuse, controls the "cigarette lighter, remote control mirror."

Page 34-50-2 of my 1991 manual

Cheers!

Steve
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JimmyGermany

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2021, 02:26:16 PM »

Thanks Steve,

I found a wiring diagram as well. Now Iím not sure if the mirrors arenít working because of the battery story, or because Iíve got the cigarette lighter disconnected to deal with the shifter linkage.

Itíll all come out in the wash.

Thanks for all your help!
James
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redsteve

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2021, 02:38:18 PM »

Hi James,

Nothing like wiring...

Keep us all informed with what you learn, as we all learn at the same time.

Cheers!

Steve
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JimmyGermany

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2021, 07:31:29 PM »

Most certainly will!

I wish Iíd paid more attention at reading wiring diagrams at college 😁

The car is still in the shop, so Iím trying to make a plan of attack for when she comes back.

Cheers
James
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JimmyGermany

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Re: What have I broken?
« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2021, 04:17:02 PM »

Gentlemen!

A summary of the damage that I've discovered so far:
80A "Main" Fuse
15A "Cigar" Fuse (this is why the mirrors didn't work)
Internal fuse of aftermarket radio.

Possible buggering of the headlight circuits (see the other thread).
I know I got off lucky.

Cheers
James
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