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Author Topic: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade  (Read 27436 times)

DarkAngel

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Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« on: June 12, 2016, 04:48:52 AM »

Hello everyone, this is my first post in Team Capri... what an awesome blog site for Capri enthusiast's !

This is a planning thread, where I am looking forward to sharing with everyone my proposed build inside and out of my newly acquired 1994 black pearl XR2 n/a australian Capri.

I've had a good opportunity to peruse Team Capri blogs for some great idea's and hopefully shall also be adding some of my own !

Turbo Engine & Transmission

B6T long turbo engine upgrade from 91 Capri turbo donor car, has all bits needed for upgrade including ECU, wiring harness, 5 speed tranmission with clutch, manual clutch pedals instead of current hydralic setup, CV joints, bigger sway bar (?)

Other upgrades, whiteline stabiliser bar, MX5 roll bar to stiffen rear...


Interior


ITEMAudioVisualSystem - comments
Alpine IVA-d106eHead unit, single din with flip out 7 inch screen with 2 video inputs, optical out. (capable of controlling amp functions). Also when parked, the screen is folded up inside dash and the faceplate may be removed to discourage theft.
Alpine MRD F35Amp 5.1 dolby surround system, 50 watts RMS x5 incl center speaker, optical input, ai net input for CD stacker, dolby pro logic II for creating virtual surround sound, 105 db awesome sound.
Alpine Speakers upgrade 50+ rmsCenter Speaker - 1 din unit mounted below headunit in dash. (may be replaced with extra turbo gauges instead)
Front Speaker Component system - 6.5 cm woofers using existing door grills, separate mounting of tweeters on 'A' pillar to bounce sound off windows
Rear Speakers - 5x7 maybe upgrade to 6x9
Subwoofers - 2x 10 inch Bassline sub's mounted under capote powered with MRD-500 amp
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ITEMTurbo upgrades
Turbo gauges, smokedBoost - neg vacuum pressure to 3 bar
Exhaust temp - seems like a good idea
hopefully smoked lenses reduce glare
Engine watchdogEngine digital oil and water temperature gauge with alarm setting parameters
Sports SeatsSomething that holds the body more in place, possibly with seat warming and extra comfort.

I have some photoshop mockups of the interior and some idea's for personalised plates which I shall post once I work out how to upload pics.
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(VJ 11/14), helical LSD, 5th gear cog, 2.5 exhaust
stiffer springs, heated seats, electronic booster
tracker gps, respray

NomakeWan

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2016, 01:17:07 PM »

Since you're pulling an engine out of another car anyway, you gonna go ahead and upgrade the turbo on it while you're at it? As an XR2 owner, trust me, you'll look for more than the stock VJ14 can offer before too long.

Best of luck with your project!
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DarkAngel

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2016, 07:29:12 PM »

Thanks for your input NomakeWan.

Upgrading the turbo seems like a fantastic idea, does anyone have any suggestions or tried and proven upgrades they have tried.

Also... Rocketchips !.. they sound delicious  :)
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stiffer springs, heated seats, electronic booster
tracker gps, respray

chrispoe

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2016, 07:49:25 PM »

IMHO… Don’t bother with surround sound in a car unless you’re planning to sit on top of the ebrake/center console to be in the right spot to take advantage of it. Plus watching a movie on a tiny 7 inch screen where it would be located in the Capri wouldn’t be ideal. I’m not even sure you could see much of anything on the lcd during the day with the top down…LOL

I’d use the money to upgrade the turbo instead, you’ll use and enjoy it a lot more.
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NomakeWan

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2016, 07:54:52 PM »

Read the pinned thread about turbo upgrades in the XR2 forum. I actually just got my VJ11/VJ14 hybrid back from the turbo shop. $500.

The Rocketchip will be absolutely required no matter what you do, whether it's upping the boost on the stock turbo or throwing in a better one. Without it you won't have the correct fuel maps and will likely do damage to your engine at higher-than-stock boost levels.
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azgtx

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2016, 08:25:19 PM »

And soon you will want more that that 14/11 is going to give..been there. But still, that is likely one of the best easy bolt on upgrades along with the rocketchip and the 5th gear swap. You won't have any issues, that will boost smooth up to 15psi and not break anything.
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DarkAngel

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2016, 08:45:34 PM »

Aftermarket clutch will be a must. I really like ACT's super street disk with the HD pressure plate. Fidanza makes a nice billet flywheel that makes a good combo if you've got the bank for it.

A front strut bar will help.

The 14/11 is quite simple to make, if only to get you back up & running. And the 11/Tbird is no laughing matter. Don't rule them oute. Mitsu turbos have been done, they seem to pair nicely. I rode in one, the guy welded the flange to the stock manifold. The hotsides don't choke the engine like the IHI units, but they do spool a bit later as tradeoff.

Thanks Rocketman, thats about $1000 AUD for that clutch combo, but... I want it !!!

5th gear swap is also going on my build plan, this gets pretty pricey pretty quick !... I'm going to have to get a spreadsheet going.

The LCD screen will be for gps mapping and mirror linking with my android tablet... but mostly will be folded in during driving. The touch screen is handy too.

As far as surround sound goes... well we'll see. I picked up a really cheap 2nd hand headunit and amp already and I like the idea of fibre optic connections. Perfect for laying down some smooth sounds ☺

Will do some more research on turbo's mentioned... 14/11 ... any more to type into google to help me find info on that ?
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stiffer springs, heated seats, electronic booster
tracker gps, respray

WashiestSnake

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2016, 09:10:06 PM »

Its nice to finally get a Australian on this Forum, I have no idea why so many of you guys stay away from this forum.
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DarkAngel

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2016, 09:51:50 PM »

Hello WashiestSnake, thanks for the welcome... it is good to meet like minded Capri fans like you guys.

I'll be keeping an eye on your build thread too.

It's nothing personal, alot of  Aussies don't even know Capri's come under the Mercury brand and were exported to the US !

Read up the sticky on Xr2 turbo... I'm thinking of the hybrid 14/11, but I'll need to check with my mechanic. He's had experience with aussie Ford Laser turbo's and racing ford stock cars like Falcon's.

I'm thinking of having a Capri XR2 turbo with just enough boost and hp to enjoy highway trips and mountain roads... ie, Probably not a highly race tuned track car.

Oh and maybe tearing around town within speed limits
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stiffer springs, heated seats, electronic booster
tracker gps, respray

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Shocks and Shopping List
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2016, 11:50:33 PM »

Ok another question...

What car models are compatible with the Xr2 94 SE in regard to shocks... Ford Escort 91 ?... Mazda 323 88 ?

There's some nice SPAX shocks with coilovers available for the Ford Escort series (ebay)...



What's my budget for this build you ask... probably about $7k the way things are going

Shopping list
$1400
XR2 94 SE na with 161k odo
$800
XR2 91 SA turbo as complete minus master cyclinder and tie rods
$1200
engine swap labour and fluids
$1000
ACT HD street performance clutch and Firenza alloy flywheel
$150
fifth gear cog upgrade
$100
Mitsu Galant front rotors 266mm
option$300
Ford Escort front callipers new
or $400
Wilwood 4 pot callipers on a slightly bigger rim maybe Mitsu Galant 276mm ?
$300
IHI VJ11 Turbo hybrid upgrade
option$1100
Spax coilover shocks
or $500
Groundforce coilovers on KYB excel-G shocks
$900
LSD drop in 26 spline transmission

Aaaand don't get me started on warming Recaro seats !!!
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 06:10:14 AM by DarkAngel »
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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2016, 04:32:59 AM »

You won't get a lot of info on the 14/11, sadly. However, any turbo shop that has experience with IHI turbos will be able to make one for you. You need the VJ14 (which you have off your donor) and the compressor wheel and compressor housing from a VJ11. These can be found on Ford Probe GTs, Mazda 626s, etc, or I'm sure someone here could find you one (that's how I got mine, and for very cheap!). All it is is giving your VJ14 and the two parts from the VJ11 to your turbo guy, then have him replace the VJ14 bits with the ones you gave him while doing the rebuild.

Oh, but most importantly, have the shop port out the wastegate hole on the VJ14 so that the wastegate flap just seals around it. The stock hole is way too small and causes boost spike issues.
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Turbo parts needed
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2016, 04:45:47 AM »

Righto... duly noted. I'll start looking around for suitable compressor housing and wheel bits from a VJ11...

Maybe if they aren't too heavy I can get someone to ship them to Australia for me :)

Edit: found one on gumtree for $250... VJ11 9001 model off a mx6

Edit: still open to purchase one of these
« Last Edit: June 13, 2016, 10:02:29 PM by DarkAngel »
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stiffer springs, heated seats, electronic booster
tracker gps, respray

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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2016, 01:32:36 PM »

I have the wheels and housings for the vj11. You dont need to buy a whole vj11. I can ship to Australia as well.
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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2016, 09:59:22 PM »

Azgtx, awesome... send me a message and we can discuss purchase... very interested. :)
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Re: Black Pearl SE XR2 turbo upgrade
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2016, 10:09:07 PM »

Whats the reason behind buying the 91 XR-2, they usually have the short nose crank that causes problems with the motor, and requires a full rebuild. Why not just use a later model Lazer 1.6L? The only  real differences between the XR2 and the standard b6 is compression, and camshaft.
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