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« on: February 25, 2011, 03:49:00 PM »

a few pics of what ive done to the capri over the last few months....
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« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2011, 03:57:00 PM »


 
 
 
new exhaust.. 2.5in divorced downpipe, wastegate dumps to atmosphere... to a 2.5 inch high flow cat...2.5in out the back mufflerless to a stainless tip.. (notice the kink arround my short throw shifter to retain my adjustability)..custom..
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« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2011, 04:07:00 PM »


 
 
 
 
16g turbo to replace the 14b im using the turbine from the 14b and the 16g compressor
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« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2011, 04:18:00 PM »


 
 
its hard not to get creative, with pipe, a bender, welding, and fabricating, equipment at my disposal...
the j pipe , and a shot of it on the 16g turbo... and my new hard pipe from the turbo to the intercooler  both smoothly stepped and seamless... no tumbling air..
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« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2011, 04:31:00 PM »

ive also picked up.. a new optima battery, new oil fittings, cross drilled and slotted rotors all 4 with new pads, and a new o2 sensor for my uego wideband..(think i might need it with a 16g) on a car that came stock with a IHI vj-14
this should be fun...Joe
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« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2011, 04:45:00 PM »

i would love a waste gate that dumps into the atmosphere but all well, doesn't have to sound fast to be fast
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« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2011, 04:32:00 AM »

if you did dump to atmosphere you would notice a nice gain... bout 20 hp.. i have the corksport dp divorced that returned to the exhaust system about 1.5 ft downstream and i cut it off about 4 inches from the flange and sealed the pipe where it used to return.. it proved to be loud above 4,000 but, my god it opens up up there... i have since re flanged the CS downpipe to fit my mitsu turbos... heres a pic on the 14b...

 
 
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« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2011, 02:07:00 PM »

how does dumping to atmos give power gains ?
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2011, 03:43:00 PM »

Joe, you might notice a little more power, and better boost control - but you won't see a 20hp gain dumping to atmosphere.
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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2011, 04:02:00 PM »

when your wastegate opens it increases exhaust flow by a percentage by introducing an extra area for exhaust to flow out...

 when the downpipe has a cast collector, or a tubular "double hump" style collector. all it does really is make an easier path past the flange but just to be bottlenecked and cause turbulance as its re introduced to the exhaust...

a divorced downpipe, keeps the turbine chamber, and the wastegate chamber. completely seperated and re introduces the wastegate flow further down the exhaust tract, this reduces turblance and gives considerable power gains..

dumping to atmosphere. although both loud, and illeagal, produces the best gains by giving a substantial increase in exhaust flow when the wastegate opens.
becuase the lower "turbine" chamber (mines 2.5) stays sealed and the upper "wastegate" chamber (mines 1.5) dumps out a short pipe...
 it prevents spiking alot more too.. boost stays level at set boost controller psi..
but if your downpipe is 2.5, and at wastegate pressure you give your exhaust flow a kick in the pants by opening another 1.5 inch exhaust.
it gives rather nice gains of topend flow equaling power...

any time you can reduce backpressure at the turbo, your going to gain power on the top end..
in the way of flow. all other variables the same.. ie. fuel ,timing, spark intensity, Ect.
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« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2011, 04:09:00 PM »

Can you post up your dyno chart? I wanna see how it affects the tq curve when the w/g opens

Nice pipes BTW
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« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2011, 04:24:00 PM »

to matt...

not with a vj- housing no, but with my ported tdo5 housing with a wastegate dump hole the size of a quarter?? think about the size of the hotside on my turbo... my turbine wheel is almost 2.5 inch, and at the flange it is 2.5 inch

when the wastegate opens at 18psi with the 14b turbo, a noticeable kick in the ass is felt..
and were not talking an intake on a honda civic here. were talking like vtec coming on in a vtec engine kind of kick.
how many horses it will actually yeild is negligable.
i know you cant feel a 5hp difference. as an engines output varies by more than that much. due to things like the weather, altitude, barometric pressure, and most noticeably temperature, so ill say 10.. but i think thats a low ball... it kicks pretty good...
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« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2011, 04:43:00 PM »

deal, when i get the 16g turbo on the car, im going to dyno it, and post my new numbers on my sig. anyway, ill post the sheet for you to see..

i guess the real question is. have you ever done it. have you ever dumped a turbo to atmosphere and felt the gains from doing so???
 
try it , its how turbocharged drag cars are built, only they use an external wastegate, and usually exit the wastegate out the side of the fender of the car...
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« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2011, 01:27:00 PM »

this was taken directly, from the did you know section of this forum....

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Venting the WASTEGATE to the atmosphere on the other hand IS very illegal, because it is venting EXHAUST GASES to the atmosphere which to be legal, MUST go through the catalytic converter.

Therefore, all factory wastegates plumb the exhaust back into the downpipe so that it is routed through the stock exhaust system.

Why do people vent them to the atmosphere then? Because plumbing the wastegate back into the downpipe generally LOSES anywhere from 10-20hp.

So what exactly is the wastegate? The wastegates ONLY function is the regulate the maximum boost pressure that the turbo will provide.

....Did You Know... BOV vs.WG to atmosphere....
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« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2011, 05:38:00 PM »

I see claims of a 15-30hp gains but no true numbers on the sites that sell the parts.

Yet they all say the advantage of the External Wastegate is to help the turbocharger operate more efficiently. This is done by relieving a large amount of back pressure pre-turbine housing. Less restrictive turbine housing will allow you to run higher boost pressures which typically results in more horsepower and even the ability to run higher ignition advance if needed.


So with that being said I would agree they there are better HP numbers due to how much more accurate they are and only work when they reach the psi it is set too...where internal ones let them bypass.

only true test would be run it with out and with to see...LOL
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