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Author Topic: BP Swap  (Read 11910 times)

chrispoe

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #45 on: August 17, 2016, 08:34:08 AM »

The F series tranny is more then strong enough to handle a N/A BP.
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azgtx

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #46 on: August 17, 2016, 10:13:03 AM »

Agreed but it will all depend on how you treat it. You will need to remember the bp tilts 11* to the front and using the f series will mount it straight up. The oil pan is designed for the tilt. Talk to Matt on this but should not be  an issue.
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chrispoe

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #47 on: August 19, 2016, 11:05:16 AM »

If you’re dumping the clutch at 5k+ rpm  to do burnouts or doing flat footed shifts, the F-series tranny won’t live very long. Then again the G-series won’t last much longer under those same conditions either…LOL


The oil pan tilt isn't a problem, I've never had my oil pressure drop below 30psi after 70K+ miles now.
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WashiestSnake

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #48 on: August 19, 2016, 12:58:29 PM »

Yea, I really dont hoon my car. I guess ill just stick with the f-series, and then just switch to the g-series whenever I get the GTX parts.
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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #49 on: August 22, 2016, 08:23:27 AM »

The issue with the oil pan, what with it being cast aluminum, the back hangs down real low. I think I scraped mine once or twice.
It's a risk to hit stuff with it, it will shatter and not dent like a stamped pan might.

My mounting situation may be different than other swaps though
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chrispoe

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2016, 10:42:40 AM »

There’s definitely a mounting difference between our cars…LOL

The back of the oil pan does hang somewhat lower, but it’s still higher up than the tranny crossmember and I still have the original bottom debris/splash shields installed that cover the oil pan too.

A level also shows that my engine is tilted forward roughly 4 degrees.
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WashiestSnake

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2016, 02:23:33 PM »

Just got back from the junkyard all the Escort GTs had their valve covers or heads taken.
Do you guys have any tips for checking a junkyard engine other then compression check, and crank turn? Also is there any aftermarket engine mounts? I cant seem to find any.

Also quick question will this suspension work? I didnt feel like starting a new thread for suspension stuff.  http://m.ebay.com/itm?itemId=191615757590  I see there is a model thats for the GTX, but would this be the correct model for our cars?

Also what happened with my Avatar? It doesnt show up on my phone at all.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2016, 07:55:38 PM by WashiestSnake »
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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #52 on: August 24, 2016, 03:52:05 PM »

You probably want to swap the clutch slave cylinder for one from an Escort or Protege, as the Capri one won't clear the engine face plate. I used the Capri slave mounted at a cockeyed angle because I'm cheap and lazy.

My slave cylinder blew out. Either the screwy angle did it in, or it was just another crappy part. I replaced it with an Escort slave, which fit properly. The piston rod was about 5/8" too long so I cut it down and ground he edges to sit in the piston dish. I drove 15ish miles around town so far, and it worked great.
« Last Edit: August 24, 2016, 03:56:14 PM by Crapi Attitude »
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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2016, 10:10:20 PM »


Physically, the BP is about an inch longer than the stock 1.6L engine. This creates clearance issues. Also for this reason, the manifolds do not interchange. You will need a complete BP with manifolds.

http://www.neukin.com/Mazda_323_B6T_BP_Turbo_Manifold_p/mazdabpb6t323.htm

Why does this state it can fit either?
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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #54 on: September 15, 2016, 02:15:03 AM »

Maybe they make two versions. I seem to remember holding my B6 manifold up to the BP and not being remotely close to fitting.
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chrispoe

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2016, 03:33:22 AM »


Physically, the BP is about an inch longer than the stock 1.6L engine. This creates clearance issues. Also for this reason, the manifolds do not interchange. You will need a complete BP with manifolds.

http://www.neukin.com/Mazda_323_B6T_BP_Turbo_Manifold_p/mazdabpb6t323.htm

Why does this state it can fit either?

Going by what the link you provided, it sounds like they offer two different versions and weld the turbo flange you request on.
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WashiestSnake

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2017, 07:07:56 PM »

Isnt the Escort G Series hydraulic? I swore I read something somewhere about that. What issues would be caused using the NA hydraulic system?
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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2017, 09:58:31 PM »


Physically, the BP is about an inch longer than the stock 1.6L engine. This creates clearance issues. Also for this reason, the manifolds do not interchange. You will need a complete BP with manifolds.

http://www.neukin.com/Mazda_323_B6T_BP_Turbo_Manifold_p/mazdabpb6t323.htm

Why does this state it can fit either?

They offer(ed) a version for each engine. Im not sure they make them anymore, interesting that the page is there - I thought they discontinued their manifold. They were $650 back in the day.

Isnt the Escort G Series hydraulic? I swore I read something somewhere about that. What issues would be caused using the NA hydraulic system?

Yes, they're hydraulic, it should mesh nicely with the N/A manual trans system. Unless there's some large discrepancy with master cylinder bore sizes, you may need to upgrade it.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2017, 10:03:50 PM by Rocketman »
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WashiestSnake

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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #58 on: March 05, 2017, 01:18:50 PM »

Quick question, ill be using a remapped Evo8 ecu and wiring harness from BP Performance, how will this change my install? The whole reason I plan on using the Evo8 ecu is because the wiring is allready ready for C.O.P and im afwul at wiring.
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Re: BP Swap
« Reply #59 on: March 05, 2017, 03:49:56 PM »

It shouldn't affect any mechanical aspects of the swap. They should be able to support you regarding the wiring.

Automotive wiring is simple!
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