TeamCapri

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length
Advanced search  

News:

New & potential members - due to overwhelming spam registrations, it's been very hard to sort through new registrations. If your account has not been approved, check your spam folder! If not please contact us at admin[AT]teamcapri.com and we'll sort it out for you.

Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6

Author Topic: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)  (Read 68308 times)

WashiestSnake

  • Old-Timer
  • *****
  • Posts: 595
    • 1991 Mercury Capri
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2016, 02:56:16 PM »

The rotors are from the 88 ish Galant and yes you want the 266mm front rotors and they are vented, trust me I have done this before. They are out there. The rears are solid so you will not use those..unless you have a GTX and upgrading the rears. You might have to grind a bit out of the caliper as well...some have done it with out grinding. You will see. It is up to you but I prefer to have the hubs turned down on a lathe as opposed to grinding them. You could also have hub centric spacers made but not all that necessary, just a bit better as opposed to lug centered. If you are going to the trouble of doing this why would you not go all the way and put in new bearings. That I cannot understand.
Clay I was asking because I allready replaced the bearings just 5k ago.  I wasnt sure if they were a one time use only thing.
Logged
1991 Mercury Capri 68,xxx Miles--Project(AWD)
1996 Lincoln Continental -- The Boat(Given to my Brother)

Gaz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Do no harm, take no sh!t.
    • 92 XR2, 01 LL Bean Outback, 92 Concours, 86 F150
    • Saint Cloud Exhaust
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #46 on: January 02, 2017, 11:10:11 AM »

I think you all might have misunderstood the bulk of my statement, in that it is almost impossible through my systems at O'Reilly's, to find slotted or specialty rotors in 266 millimeters, under that application. You can obviously find them online, my statement was saying I couldn't find them through my store in any other flavor than the standard vented disc variety.

The rotors are from the 88 ish Galant and yes you want the 266mm front rotors and they are vented, trust me I have done this before. They are out there. The rears are solid so you will not use those..unless you have a GTX and upgrading the rears. You might have to grind a bit out of the caliper as well...some have done it with out grinding. You will see. It is up to you but I prefer to have the hubs turned down on a lathe as opposed to grinding them. You could also have hub centric spacers made but not all that necessary, just a bit better as opposed to lug centered. If you are going to the trouble of doing this why would you not go all the way and put in new bearings. That I cannot understand.
Logged

Gaz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Do no harm, take no sh!t.
    • 92 XR2, 01 LL Bean Outback, 92 Concours, 86 F150
    • Saint Cloud Exhaust
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #47 on: January 02, 2017, 01:35:10 PM »

CENTRIC 12146014

266mm front rotor

O'Reilly part number is 8204rgs
Logged

DarkAngel

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 205
  • Cruzing around the Blue Mountains since 2012
    • Black Pearl XR2 SE 1994 Ford Capri
    • Build Thread
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #48 on: January 03, 2017, 11:47:24 AM »

What type of brake pads fits  the 22v 14 front caliper?

The studs are knurled m12x1.5 and I'm thinking about 45mm ? for this upgrade... I suppose the length also depends which rims you are going to use... how long are the original studs (that are 6mm too short for the Galant brake upgrade)

You guys rock  :o
Logged
Current Project XR2 SE

To Do
(VJ 11/14), helical LSD, 5th gear cog, 2.5 exhaust
stiffer springs, heated seats, electronic booster
tracker gps, respray

azgtx

  • Old-Timer
  • *****
  • Posts: 548
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #49 on: January 03, 2017, 08:53:19 PM »

I get it on the bearings but anytime I go in I replace the bearings. Hard to tell once you start pressing on them to get the thing apart what can happen. New bearings take all the guessing out and 40.00 is better than taking it all apart again.
Logged

Rocketman

  • Administrator
  • Old-Timer
  • *****
  • Posts: 5492
    • 91 BPT AWD Capri & 1991 XR2
    • http://www.werbatfik.com
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #50 on: January 03, 2017, 09:54:14 PM »

What type of brake pads fits  the 22v 14 front caliper?

The studs are knurled m12x1.5 and I'm thinking about 45mm ? for this upgrade... I suppose the length also depends which rims you are going to use... how long are the original studs (that are 6mm too short for the Galant brake upgrade)

You guys rock  :o

You shop for pads for the appropriate Escort that the calipers come from
Logged
1.8L Turbo All Wheel Drive Capri... the "GTXR2"


DarkAngel

  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 205
  • Cruzing around the Blue Mountains since 2012
    • Black Pearl XR2 SE 1994 Ford Capri
    • Build Thread
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #51 on: January 03, 2017, 10:04:42 PM »

I found some off the dusty shelf out the back NOS 22v 14 callipers... unloaded.

edit: Maybe I'll just take the calipers down to the brake shop, and find something suitable to fit in store.
« Last Edit: January 04, 2017, 03:02:03 AM by DarkAngel »
Logged
Current Project XR2 SE

To Do
(VJ 11/14), helical LSD, 5th gear cog, 2.5 exhaust
stiffer springs, heated seats, electronic booster
tracker gps, respray

Gaz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Do no harm, take no sh!t.
    • 92 XR2, 01 LL Bean Outback, 92 Concours, 86 F150
    • Saint Cloud Exhaust
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2017, 10:10:52 AM »

C473 in Brakebest was what I think would work. (O'Reilly)
Logged

chrispoe

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 435
    • 91 BP Capri GT
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2017, 10:49:15 AM »

What type of brake pads fits  the 22v 14 front caliper?

The studs are knurled m12x1.5 and I'm thinking about 45mm ? for this upgrade... I suppose the length also depends which rims you are going to use... how long are the original studs (that are 6mm too short for the Galant brake upgrade)

You guys rock  :o

All 97+ Mercury Tracers and 98+ Ford Escorts use the 22v-14 calipers. You can even use the Capri’s pads too, but they're about a half inch shorter height wise and won’t be as resilient to brake fade as the larger ones.


The Capri’s front studs are 36mm long. 
So you can use the 91+ Ford Escort or the 90+ Mazda 323 studs, they’re both 42mm long. In fact most FWD Mazda cars from the early 90’s thru the early 2000’s use the same lug studs.


Logged

greywolf27030

  • Old-Timer
  • *****
  • Posts: 1658
    • 1991 XR2, 1992 XR2, 1993 XR2
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2017, 09:15:57 AM »

You never fail to amaze me......

Jack Byrd
Logged
Jack Byrd

Gaz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Do no harm, take no sh!t.
    • 92 XR2, 01 LL Bean Outback, 92 Concours, 86 F150
    • Saint Cloud Exhaust
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #55 on: March 23, 2017, 12:27:48 AM »

I give up. Who has a part number for at least slotted rotors?
Logged

Btown

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 18
    • 1992 turbo clubsprint x 2
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #56 on: May 28, 2017, 06:52:00 PM »

I give up. Who has a part number for at least slotted rotors?
Any luck Gaz?
Looking at these is Australia
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401302733204

The Calipers you guy talk about from a 95 Escort, I am thinking it is the Ford Laser here in Aus. But checking the stamp will guide me I guess.
Logged
1992 Clubsprint x 3
Lowered, stiffened, boosted, chipped, fun
Daily Drive, 5.0 MY17 GT Ruby Red Mustang

Gaz

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 423
  • Do no harm, take no sh!t.
    • 92 XR2, 01 LL Bean Outback, 92 Concours, 86 F150
    • Saint Cloud Exhaust
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #57 on: May 29, 2017, 12:25:49 PM »

I give up. Who has a part number for at least slotted rotors?
Any luck Gaz?
Looking at these is Australia
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401302733204

The Calipers you guy talk about from a 95 Escort, I am thinking it is the Ford Laser here in Aus. But checking the stamp will guide me I guess.

Holy hell, my hero! Sure are pricy, though. Also, doesn't state the bolt pattern. The pictures are five lug...somewhat disconcerting.
Logged

SHOwn

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 287
    • 91 XR2
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #58 on: June 17, 2017, 11:09:18 AM »

RockAuto does show some Powerstop slotted rotors, and cheap! But the only ones with dimension descriptions are 256mm,  :(  if you want to try the Centric ones, I'd call them for diameter check first.

My Galant big brake upgrade notes:

A link that still works...

http://www.trinituner.com/v4/forums/viewtopic.php?t=161940

TeamCapri says that the Centric 121.46014 (266 mm) for 88 Galant but RockAuto does not show that number.

RockAuto has the following:
I found the 91 Dodge Colt Vista 4wd front has that fitment. They show a Raybestos 8402R as 266mm

Under 85-87 Galant with front disk/rear drum
Beck/Arnley 0832313 matches and has better specs and only $7.65 each!
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=492701&cc=1206065&jnid=655&jpid=16

I ordered those, but when they arrived, I was alarmed at how heavy they were, and that Rocket's original post shows a pic of almost square vent holes in his rotors, the beck-arnly's seem to have such thick friction slabs that the vents are rectangular slits. I thought I should try another brand of 266mm rotors so, for only $4.84 each, I'd try them as well.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/bendix,141320,rotor,1896
(Bendix 141320)

Once those arrived they proved to be identical to the Beck-Arnlys, so I guess now I have spares since the ship back cost is more than the refund! Aah, but they were very cheap.

They also show the Centric 12146014 (not as nice but seems to confirm the fitment)


Also the 1998 escort loaded caliper....
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2055732&cc=1420467&jnid=1002&jpid=32

Rear brake clips and hardware:
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2027608&cc=1196636&jnid=374&jpid=11

Hope these include the bearings and seals, but I'll have to ask...
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=391397&cc=1196636&jnid=377&jpid=7

Probably not, so here are the bearings...
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4583841&cc=1196636&jnid=379&jpid=16
And..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=4583859&cc=1196636&jnid=374&jpid=11
Of course seals..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=498860&cc=1196636&jnid=375&jpid=1

Pads, I thought ceramics would be cleaner on the chrome wheels...
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1053933&cc=1196636&jnid=378&jpid=32

Rear nuts..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1975490&cc=1196636&jnid=379&jpid=2
And..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=15686&cc=1196636&jnid=374&jpid=3

Front..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=15682&cc=1196636&jnid=374&jpid=1

Front bearings - inner and outer are same..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=220156&cc=1196636&jnid=375&jpid=20

Lug studs for the last gen escorts, checking fitment, these also are found on most Focuses as well:
https://www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/ford,2002,escort,2.0l+l4+dohc,1420502,wheel,lug+stud,7680

Front seal..
Inner..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1117995&cc=1196636&jnid=376&jpid=10
Outer..
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=1117732&cc=1196636&jnid=376&jpid=11

Now, a disclaimer: I haven't recieved my hubs back from the machine shop yet, so I can't confirm much. I'll post when they come back and I can test fit everything on my spare set of nuckles (from the 94 N/A I stripped).
« Last Edit: March 29, 2018, 06:01:46 AM by SHOwn »
Logged
R. Powell
'91 XR2, LM 16" Chrome Drifters, White Gauge Faces, Kuhmo 40's, Big Brake UG, 2.5" Mandrel Bent CATback, BMW318 Heated Seats, `94 console, '99 Dodge Neon Spoiler, '94 XR2 Sideskirts Bumpers and taillights, Fresh Basecoat-Clearcoat Cardinal Red (Jul2014), vj11/vj14 hybrid, manual boost CTL.

Btown

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 18
    • 1992 turbo clubsprint x 2
Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #59 on: July 31, 2017, 05:27:38 PM »

I give up. Who has a part number for at least slotted rotors?
Any luck Gaz?
Looking at these is Australia
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/401302733204

The Calipers you guy talk about from a 95 Escort, I am thinking it is the Ford Laser here in Aus. But checking the stamp will guide me I guess.

Holy hell, my hero! Sure are pricy, though. Also, doesn't state the bolt pattern. The pictures are five lug...somewhat disconcerting.

In the description it states 4 hole, just can not rely on photo🙁.
And wow what an information blast.
Thanks for that it is awesome
Logged
1992 Clubsprint x 3
Lowered, stiffened, boosted, chipped, fun
Daily Drive, 5.0 MY17 GT Ruby Red Mustang
Pages: 1 2 3 [4] 5 6