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Author Topic: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)  (Read 68274 times)

WashiestSnake

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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #75 on: November 24, 2017, 01:25:52 PM »

Anybody have a rust free dust shield. The set on both my pair of knuckles are really bad.
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WashiestSnake

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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #76 on: March 28, 2018, 06:18:15 PM »

Can anyone confirm if these are the right Disk Specs?
Outer Diameter:265mm
Height:49mm
Nom Thick:10mm
Min Thick: 8.4mm
Hub Reg:90mm
Bolt SIze:12.5mm
Bolt Circle: 4x114.3
Weight: 9lbs
This would be much appreciated if i can confirm these are right.
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SHOwn

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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #77 on: March 28, 2018, 09:27:32 PM »

265mm is correct for the overall diameter, but the rest of those specs look way off. The Galant disks I got from RockAuto are 265.7mm (close enough) but they are 24mm thick. Have you looked at the two links I posted from RockAuto earlier in this thread? If you dig around enough on RockAuto you will find the full specs for those rotors. They have a button on the desktop webpage for fitment as well, it will tell you which vehicles a given part number from a maker fits. These fit some Dodge Colts as well.

Mine (Beck/Arnley 083-2313) have a 69mm hub opening and the overall width is 46.6mm from face to back of disk, subtract the 24mm disk thickness to come up with a 22.6mm protrusion for the hub to nest within.
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chrispoe

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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #78 on: March 29, 2018, 12:10:16 AM »

Can anyone confirm if these are the right Disk Specs?
Outer Diameter:265mm
Height:49mm
Nom Thick:10mm
Min Thick: 8.4mm
Hub Reg:90mm
Bolt SIze:12.5mm
Bolt Circle: 4x114.3
Weight: 9lbs
This would be much appreciated if i can confirm these are right.

The 10mm thickness would indicate that these are rear rotors, you need the front ones that are 24mm thick.
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SHOwn

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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2018, 06:11:49 AM »

I thought that as well Chris. Here is my earlier post on what to buy, these will cost you around $22 total delivered for the pair...

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RockAuto has the following:
I found the 91 Dodge Colt Vista 4wd front has that fitment. They show a Raybestos 8402R as 266mm

Under 85-87 Galant with front disk/rear drum
Beck/Arnley 0832313 matches and has better specs and only $7.65 each!
http://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=492701&cc=1206065&jnid=655&jpid=16

I ordered those, but when they arrived, I was alarmed at how heavy they were, and that Rocket's original post shows a pic of almost square vent holes in his rotors, the beck-arnly's seem to have such thick friction slabs that the vents are rectangular slits. I thought I should try another brand of 266mm rotors so, for only $4.84 each, I'd try them as well.
https://www.rockauto.com/en/parts/bendix,141320,rotor,1896
(Bendix 141320)

Once those arrived they proved to be identical to the Beck-Arnlys, so I guess now I have spares since the ship back cost is more than the refund! Aah, but they were very cheap.

They also show the Centric 12146014 (not as nice but seems to confirm the fitment) ...Quote]

I've put about 5k on the Bendix rotors so far and kept the Beck/Arnley's as spares. Buy em cheap.

Hope this helps.
Ron
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WashiestSnake

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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #80 on: March 29, 2018, 03:05:54 PM »

Intresting from where I was looking it was listed as fronts, seems as though it's impossible to get slotted rotors from the front.
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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #81 on: March 31, 2018, 05:30:53 PM »

Don't bother with the slotted or slotted/drilled rotors - they end up causing issues long term. They're intended for track cars with aggressive pads that off-gas a lot (the features vent the gasses). These get replaced often on a track car and don't stay on long.

The slotted/drilled rotors tend to develop small cracks, and don't do much as street pad materials dont off-gas like a track pad would
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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #82 on: February 21, 2019, 09:24:19 AM »

Some changes have been made to my original post. Those changes are in BOLD.

I have ordered the parts for my Big Brake conversion. I will get started once temperatures get into the 60's.

Here is what I have ordered:

A1 Cardone Ultra weatherproof coated calipers: 19P1337A left, 19P1336A right

Bendix TitaniuMetallic pads: MKD473

Centric 12146014 rotors  x2

Timken SET11 bearings  x4

National 710323 outer seal   x2

National 4990 inner seal   x2

Dorman 610543 wheel stud  x8  M12-1.50 ; 12.95mm Knurl; 53.0mm Length (longer for my aftermarket wheels)

I utilized wheel studs that were longer than specified in the original article. The studs specified would allow only 5 turns of the lug nuts to torque down the wheels. Not enough thread engagement for my comfort. So I went with even longer studs which will allow more thread engagement.

My friend has a lathe that will be used to turn the hubs down. At the same time I will also be making hubcentric spacers from aluminum.

I will be painting the rotor hats and outer edge with VHT high temperature clear paint to keep the rotors from rusting.

Bearings will be packed with Mobil 1 synthetic grease.

The last time I replaced the front bearings (2010)  it was impossible to use my hydraulic press for some of the work. This time I have a new Press support block plate which will allow the spindle to be supported properly.

My total cost for all the parts and supplies came to just under $150.00

I am ready for winter to be finished. I have spring fever now!!!
« Last Edit: March 12, 2019, 11:58:37 AM by belleaudb »
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greywolf27030

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Re: Galant Brake Upgrade (Big Brake Kit!)
« Reply #83 on: February 21, 2019, 05:32:38 PM »

I have ordered the parts for my Big Brake conversion. I will get started once temperatures get into the 60's.

Here is what I have ordered:

A1 Cardone Ultra weatherproof coated calipers: 19P1337A left, 19P1336A right

Bendix TitaniuMetallic pads: MKD473

Centric 12146014 rotors  x2

Timken SET11 bearings  x4

National 710323 outer seal   x2

National 4990 inner seal   x2

Dorman 610518 wheel stud  x8  M12-1.50 ; 12.95mm Knurl; 43.0mm Length


My friend has a lathe that will be used to turn the hubs down. At the same time I will also be making hubcentric spacers.

I will be painting the rotor hats and outer edge with VHT high temperature clear paint to keep the rotors from rusting.

Bearings will be packed with Mobil 1 synthetic grease.

The last time I replaced the front bearings (2010)  it was impossible to use my hydraulic press for some of the work. This time I have a new Press support block plate which will allow the spindle to be supported properly.

My total cost for all the parts and supplies came to just under $150.00

I am ready for winter to be finished. I have spring fever now!!!

Cool....Jack Byrd
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