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« on: July 26, 2004, 08:24:00 PM »

Hi, I'm a new member on here, and I really am not quite sure where to post my message...I guess I'll just start here.  I have a '93 Capri Non-Turbo.  All I have right now for mods is a great Pioneer head unit, 4 Fujitsu-Ten Eclipse speakers, and StreetGlow foglights.  This car is extremely fun to drive, and the attention you get in a convertible is great too, but as far as power and speed, i'm not completely satisfied.  I don't NEED a 10-second car, even though it would be nice, I just need some more power.  I've been reading about people putting the B6T engine in, but i've read good things and bad things about it.  I realize that some form of this question has been asked probably numerous times on here, but I really would like to know what's the best way to get more horsepower for the best price. I'm not talking 10 more hp from a new intake, i'm talking new engine, turbo, etc..  I need something that will crank out about more horses than a stock xr2 (apparently the B6T's about 150), and would cost under a grand.  I guess I'm really not looking for something real radical either, something that needs SO much work and adjusting, like dropping in like a Ford Duratec V6 in or something, but something that I could, with a little work, do myself.  I'm not completely experienced in auto mechanics, but i know that with a little help i could do it.  If worst comes to worst, I could always pay a professional a grand or more to drop a bigger engine in, but that's not on my list of things to do.  I would REALLY appreciate it if someone could get back to me on my questions.  I'll look forward to hearing from someone soon.  Thank ya much.
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« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2004, 04:32:00 AM »

What kind of power are you lookin for? The capri is a extremely light car and any little bit of horse power will help. 10hp from a intake you will not see, hehe. The B6T engine is a direct swap and is also the less expensive engine upgrade with tranny possible for the best hp output. Granted that 150hp is stock, but that also takes more then a second off the capri, and can be upped with something as small as a boost valve. Or you can see alittle more power with turbo charging the n/a engine you have but high boost you will not see because with the n/a's high compression pistons you more then sure to crack them. You can put any engine you want in even a v8 but anything past B6 series blocks will require money to do as the parts are not around for custom jobs like that. So you will need to find total cars with that engine to transplant the entire engine and tranny from with shalfs and what not.
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« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 02:35:00 PM »

Go with a B6T, get a new chip and boost controller, unplug the fuel cut off and up the boost to 12 psi. With the JDM B6T, an intake and exhaust, you should be moving pretty good for a little over a grand (assuming you can install everything yourself).
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« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2004, 04:38:00 PM »

Thanks alot for the advice, sounds like a good deal.
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« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2004, 11:00:00 AM »

Stock B6T is only 132hp btw.  
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« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2004, 03:16:00 PM »

JDM is 150hp  ;)
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2004, 12:31:00 PM »

True dat.  I would love to get my hands on that GTR motor though.  Don't quote me on hp ratings but stock on that 1.8 motor is about 250 sum + or - 20 hp.  That's a lot of hp, and through those AWD setups? WOW  
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« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2004, 07:45:00 AM »

I'm like you, I want more hp, but it doesn't need to be a lot more, and money is definitely a concern, which is why I'm going with a good N/A tune instead of even a b6t swap.  When it gets cooler, I'm going to port and polish the heads, polish the headers, rehone the cylinders, re-ring and balance the pistons and have the block and head milled to be a flat surface again.  Then I'm going with a high-flow cat and probably a 2" or 2 1/4" exhaust into a dynomax turbo muffler.  You can do the port and polish, honing and balancing yourself for the price of the gaskets to rebuild the engine, if you've got a good dremel tool.  With that setup, I'm hoping for around 130-135 hp, naturally aspirated (no turbo lag) - if you REALLY wanted to go after the big power, then while you're in there, you can overbore the cylinders, go with higher compression pistons, and probably shore up the block some to bump your compression even higher.

Not counting the exhaust, it'll cost less than $200, doing it myself.  With exhaust it should still be under $500.  I want to do something unconventional with the exhaust too - but I haven't decided if I want to side-exit, or center exit (boxster style)
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« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2004, 04:15:00 PM »

I tried the center exhaust and the damn gas tank gets in the way. I smashed up 2 systems with that setup... unless you go with stock routing and redirect the tail pipe to the center which would make it more restrictive....
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2004, 05:33:00 AM »

hmm, alright, sounds like the side-exit is the best candidate so far - I'll have to get under it again and look to see what it would take to get it to exit just in front of the passengers rear wheel.
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« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2004, 06:12:00 PM »

well if you go turbo then the horizen just brodens. just add an intake, decent exaust, boost controller, and bov and u will be running around 300hp. i have a custom exaust and intake right now and it really moves, im looking to install a bov and mbc, ill be running about 9lbs of boost. this car has so many options that it is a dream to work on. anything is possible.
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2004, 09:40:00 AM »

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well if you go turbo then the horizen just brodens. just add an intake, decent exaust, boost controller, and bov and u will be running around 300hp. i have a custom exaust and intake right now and it really moves, im looking to install a bov and mbc, ill be running about 9lbs of boost. this car has so many options that it is a dream to work on. anything is possible.
Wow - I don't want to be rude or anything, but I'd have to see the dyno numbers on that.  If you can add just those four things and push 300hp (for more than 300 miles) I'd be very impressed.  I'm thinking 200hp would be more realistic, and even that's stretching it.  Unless you added forged pistons and crank, etc, then you could probably go to 220-230hp pretty reliably.  Otherwise you're gonna be tearing the engine down every weekend.  Besides, doesn't the stock turbo already put out 7psi of boost?
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2004, 02:54:00 PM »

Yes, stock turbo puts out about 7-8 psi. You will need more then that to hit 300hp. First you would need to dial in atleast over 14psi let alone you wouldnt see that number with a VJ10 or VJ14 turbo. You may have better luck with a VJ16 to hit the 300hp number, but like rich said. You might want to look for stronger internals before attempting that power.
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2004, 03:00:00 AM »

Just look at the WRC GTX from 1988.. they ran B6T to 300+ HP  

You know in late eighties F1 engines were running 1200 HP from 1.5 L V10 (those needed to be rebuild after each 60 lap race  

 
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Originally posted by a97sky:
well if you go turbo then the horizen just brodens. just add an intake, decent exaust, boost controller, and bov and u will be running around 300hp. i have a custom exaust and intake right now and it really moves, im looking to install a bov and mbc, ill be running about 9lbs of boost. this car has so many options that it is a dream to work on. anything is possible.
Wow - I don't want to be rude or anything, but I'd have to see the dyno numbers on that.  If you can add just those four things and push 300hp (for more than 300 miles) I'd be very impressed.  I'm thinking 200hp would be more realistic, and even that's stretching it.  Unless you added forged pistons and crank, etc, then you could probably go to 220-230hp pretty reliably.  Otherwise you're gonna be tearing the engine down every weekend.  Besides, doesn't the stock turbo already put out 7psi of boost? [/b][/QUOTE]
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2004, 07:09:00 AM »

Only 3 things really cuz the BOV doesn't gain you any hp, just lets the turbo be a little more efficient.


 
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well if you go turbo then the horizen just brodens. just add an intake, decent exaust, boost controller, and bov and u will be running around 300hp. i have a custom exaust and intake right now and it really moves, im looking to install a bov and mbc, ill be running about 9lbs of boost. this car has so many options that it is a dream to work on. anything is possible.
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