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Author Topic: 5th Gear Swap for XR2  (Read 6997 times)

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« on: October 11, 2011, 04:42:00 PM »

Apparently this info isn't common enough knowlegdge, so I'm posting a thread here to help spread the info.

On the G-Series transmission you can swap the 5th gear from a .795 ratio to a .717 ratio. This will drop your highway RPM's 400-500 RPM and offer better fuel economy, and higher overall top end speed.

These gearsets come from other G5MR/G25MR series transmissions used in other Ford/Mazda cars. Russ @ Roo-Sport carries gearsets and come with install instructions

Here's OEM part numbers if you ever need them:
G560-17-611B - Primary Shaft 5th gear
G514-17-308 - Secondary Shaft 5th gear

The output gear has 33 teeth.
The input gear has 46 teeth.

Here's install instructions from ClubProtege, note this CAN be done in-car:
 http://www.clubprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?36485

More info on FordFestiva.com:
 http://www.fordfestiva.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37140&highlight=5th+gear+swap

Hope this helps.
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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2011, 11:47:00 AM »

sorry to ask dumb question but how do i know if my xr2 has this tranny?
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« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2011, 12:54:00 PM »

Do you have an XR2? If yes, you have the correct G-Type transmission.

If you have a nonturbo, then you do NOT have the correct transmission.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2011, 06:13:00 AM »

Any chance the material could be reproduced here?

I'm a little loath to join more and more and more forums.  I've already got enough logins to fill 2 screens in Excel  :D
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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2012, 05:13:00 PM »

Just bought one of these from roosport    can't wait till it shows up!
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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2012, 12:01:00 PM »

When you buy your set from Roo Sport you should get a set of instructions. Call Russ and he will take care it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2012, 04:48:00 PM »

any ideas/speculations on top speed with these gears?
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« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2012, 06:45:00 PM »

Yes I have run a gear calculator on everything. This is using stock wheels/tires & stock rev limiter. Changing to larger wheels & going to a higher rev limit will increase the top speed

Here's stock:
code:
 Gear set: Manually entered values
    Gear        1        2        3        4        5      Final
    Ratios:   3.307    1.833    1.233    0.970    0.795    3.850

    RPM Limit:          6800
    RPM @Peak Power:    5500
    Tyre Size:          185/60 x 14
    Tyre Diameter:      22.74 in
    Tyre Circumference: 71.44 in


    Gear   Mph per 1000 RPM   Mph @5500 RPM   Mph @6800 RPM
    --------------------------------------------------------
      1         5.31                29              36
      2         9.59                53              65
      3        14.25                78              97
      4        18.12               100             123
      5        22.10               122             150
   
     Mph             RPM (in Gears)
    -------------------------------------------------
               1        2        3        4        5        
    -------------------------------------------------
       5      941      522      351      276      226
      10     1882     1043      702      552      452
      15     2823     1565     1053      828      679
      20     3764     2086     1403     1104      905
      25     4705     2608     1754     1380     1131
      30     5646     3129     2105     1656     1357
      35     6587     3651     2456     1932     1584
      40              4173     2807     2208     1810
      45              4694     3158     2484     2036
      50              5216     3508     2760     2262
      55              5737     3859     3036     2488
      60              6259     4210     3312     2715
      65              6780     4561     3588     2941
      70                       4912     3864     3167
      75                       5263     4140     3393
      80                       5614     4416     3619
      85                       5964     4692     3846
      90                       6315     4968     4072
      95                       6666     5244     4298
     100                                5520     4524
     105                                5796     4751
     110                                6072     4977
     115                                6348     5203
     120                                6624     5429
     125                                         5655
     130                                         5882
     135                                         6108
     140                                         6334
     145                                         6560
     150                                         6786
   
    Gear Change  RPM drop (change @5500)  RPM drop (change @6800)
    -------------------------------------------------------------
      1 -> 2         -2451 (to 3049)          -3031 (to 3769)
      2 -> 3         -1800 (to 3700)          -2226 (to 4574)
      3 -> 4         -1173 (to 4327)          -1450 (to 5350)
      4 -> 5         -992 (to 4508)          -1227 (to 5573)
[/QUOTE]Here's with the 5th gear swap:
code:
    Gear set: Manually entered values
    Gear        1        2        3        4        5      Final
    Ratios:   3.307    1.833    1.233    0.970    0.717    3.850

    RPM Limit:          6800
    RPM @Peak Power:    5500
    Tyre Size:          185/60 x 14
    Tyre Diameter:      22.74 in
    Tyre Circumference: 71.44 in


    Gear   Mph per 1000 RPM   Mph @5500 RPM   Mph @6800 RPM
    --------------------------------------------------------
      1         5.31                29              36
      2         9.59                53              65
      3        14.25                78              97
      4        18.12               100             123
      5        24.51               135             167
   
     Mph             RPM (in Gears)
    -------------------------------------------------
               1        2        3        4        5        
    -------------------------------------------------
       5      941      522      351      276      204
      10     1882     1043      702      552      408
      15     2823     1565     1053      828      612
      20     3764     2086     1403     1104      816
      25     4705     2608     1754     1380     1020
      30     5646     3129     2105     1656     1224
      35     6587     3651     2456     1932     1428
      40              4173     2807     2208     1632
      45              4694     3158     2484     1836
      50              5216     3508     2760     2040
      55              5737     3859     3036     2244
      60              6259     4210     3312     2448
      65              6780     4561     3588     2652
      70                       4912     3864     2856
      75                       5263     4140     3060
      80                       5614     4416     3264
      85                       5964     4692     3468
      90                       6315     4968     3672
      95                       6666     5244     3876
     100                                5520     4080
     105                                5796     4284
     110                                6072     4488
     115                                6348     4692
     120                                6624     4896
     125                                         5101
     130                                         5305
     135                                         5509
     140                                         5713
     145                                         5917
     150                                         6121
     155                                         6325
     160                                         6529
     165                                         6733
   
    Gear Change  RPM drop (change @5500)  RPM drop (change @6800)
    -------------------------------------------------------------
      1 -> 2         -2451 (to 3049)          -3031 (to 3769)
      2 -> 3         -1800 (to 3700)          -2226 (to 4574)
      3 -> 4         -1173 (to 4327)          -1450 (to 5350)
      4 -> 5         -1435 (to 4065)          -1774 (to 5026)
[/QUOTE]Running 195/55/15's with a 7200 RPM limit you will redline 5th at 182mph.

Of course I don't condone driving that fast, these cars get very scary at anything over 120mph
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Kev93

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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 02:13:00 AM »

Rocketman,

I've had the swap done, and I'm still reading a tad over 3000 RPM at 70 MPH in 5th.

Is there a possibility that the tachometer isn't calibrated properly?

I know, for example, that the speedo actually reads a couple MPH on the slow side (68 on speedo is really 70) ... but wheels/tires are stock.
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